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Hey all, I know that the scammers are out in force this year. Usually, when I see a high end car on kijiji going for $4000, you know it's a scam. Case in point...
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/miss ... nFlag=true

So I will reply to their ads just to see if they are in the military and stationed across sees, car is in Miami in a storage unit or whether it is a poor recently divorced woman that was awarded the car in the divorce and now only wants to get rid of it...
This one I posted is telling me the car is in London On. but she is in Seattle Washington. She is willing to come back and meet me as long as I am not wasting her time by flying back and then end up not selling the car. She just emailed me and wants to meet Wednesday. I replied that I can't do weekdays, just weekends. She is almost convincing, but what I really want to know is, whats her game? So she is going to bring the car for me to inspect it and buy it? Haven't heard of this one, so it makes me wonder how this scam works...any thoughts or has anyone had any dealing with a Kelly Callagan?
Also, this is the link she gave me for more pics of the car. It does have Ontario license plates...
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One helluva a deal ! 4K for a 2002 Firehawk.
Strange scam if the car is in London...like of course you will be available to see it...or send another member to check it.
Tell her to bring the papers and you will bring the cash..and a couple of friends just in case.

Most scams are for some lost wire transfer deposit on a fake long distance car.
Unless 3 guys are going to show up and rob you...

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Definitley strange, I was thinking the same thing about being robbed. The person emailed me again tonight. They said that Saturday is no problem and that they will have all the paperwork for the car. I even asked then for the Buyers Used Car package from the ministry...they seem almost too accomodating...I think I will tell them that I will look at the car on Saturday, but I will want the vin # to give to my insurance company before any money changes hands.

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You can ask MTO for info with the plate.

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Good idea...I think I will call tomorrow...

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It costs a few bucks but you get owner info

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With the serial number or plate number, one can buy a "used vehicle information package" from the MTO that shows the present owner and all previous owners.

Cost = $20.

It's actually the resposibility of the seller to provide it.

https://www.ontario.ca/driving-and-road ... on-package

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Wit the Vin, you can also get a CarProof or CarFax

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I would ask her why the car is priced so low.

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Unless 3 guys are going to show up and rob you...


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Cross reference the vin on the car to the vin on the paperwork when it is all physically in front of you, cut the chk and take the car home right then a there, lol


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Tim Bosma RIP. Be careful guys, old cliche "If it sounds to good to be true? It probably is"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/ ... -1.2772215

Now if anyone here is looking for a great investment opportunity? Send me your bank account info I have some funds in Nigeria I want to send you :lol:

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So they gave an address, 650 Cheapside Rd in London, which is a condo unit behind a plaza. I replied back saying that I don't know London and I would prefer to meet at the Schell gas station on Oxford Road 29 outside Woodstock and that I also needed the Vin so I can get insurance in order to get a temporary permit to drive the car. I also said that no money will change hands unless I have what I requested. Still waiting to hear back. So if this is a legit transaction, they should be fine with it, but I have a feeling that even if I do hear from her, it wont be satisfactory at which point the "deal" will fall through. If this a scam, it's a new one to me. I did call the police station yesterday and they have not heard of any scams where the person actually has the vehicle and is willing to meet face to face.

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im going to london saturday if u want a hand :stick

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Found these ads for the same car, both with a phone number....

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/london/2002-pontiac-firebird-cabrio/1029509203?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

http://cacarlist.com/pontiac/2002-pontiac-firebird-cabrio_24613-25697.html


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So thie scamm is like this, once they think you are convinced there is a real car and that they are going to meet with you, they ask for a deposit to help pay for the flight and expenses of travelling to Canada. Almost laughed myself silly. I replied back that there was no way any money is being sent anywhere until I have physically verified that the car is what it is suppose to be and that all paperwork is in order. The person even took at photo of "her" passport to verify her identity...too bad she can't spell her last name correctly. :shock:

I have posted my correspondence with this person from the last week...read from the bottom up to see the start of the emails...





i need a deposit two months rent $1,900 because i will be spending $500 for the plane ticket plus the expenses ,
Find a moneygram office and put the deposit into my husband's name:
Craig Callagan -30 Westlake Avenue, Seattle, WA 98121 USA
I will make a photo with my iphone
so you can see my id

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM, kelly callagan <kellycallagan@gmail.com> wrote:
that's great for me I know the place and will see you at Oxford road 29

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ok, However, being that London is quite far from me and I don't know my way around it, I would prefer to meet in a neutral area. I can meet you at the Schell Gas Station/truck stop on Oxford Road 29, just on the other side of Woodstock. Exit 250 off the 401...I have also talked to my insurance company and they require a vin number in order for me to be able to get a temporary permit at the ministry, so I will need that before any money is exchanged...
Let me know if that works for you.
Thanks
Kevin
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Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 04:06:09 +0200

Subject: Re: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london
From: kellycallagan@gmail.com
To: kevs87ta@hotmail.com
yes that;s the one a V8 model not the V6

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kelly,
Ok, so just to reiterate everything. The Pontiac is the one in the pictures that you sent me, correct. This is a 2002 Pontiac Firebird Firehawk with a LS1 V8 motor and a 6 sp manual transmission , black exterior with black leather interior.
I don't want to come all the way there only to find out that it is a V6 Firebird. Big difference between the two.
Let me know,
Thanks
Kevin
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Subject: Re: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london
From: kevs87ta@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:19:51 -0500
To: kellycallagan@gmail.com

Is that a house?
Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone
-- kelly callagan wrote ----
at 650 Cheapside, N5Y 5J8, London, ON is my Pontiac

is this fine with you

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:

where and when?
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Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 01:56:13 +0200

Subject: Re: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london
From: kellycallagan@gmail.com
To: kevs87ta@hotmail.com
Of course Kevin I will provide everything on the spot

so we are on for Saturday?

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hey Kelly,
During the week is no good to me, it will have to be on a Saturday as I do not live in the London area.
Do you have the used car buyers package?
Thanks
Kevin
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Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 23:31:53 +0200
Subject: Re: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london
From: kellycallagan@gmail.com
To: kevs87ta@hotmail.com

Hi Kevin ,

the documents are inside the car I will show them to you there ,

let's meet on Wednesday

Kelly

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:
No I don't have whatsup, but I will tell you that I am a avid car buff that has always honored my word. But before I proceed any farther,I want to see the car in person, test drive it and pay cash up front. Also, I would like to check the Vin # as well. Since you have the ownership and certification, could you send me that? Once I am satisfied with the information, we can then set up a day to meet/buy the Firehawk.
THANKS
Kevin
Have a great day!!

---- kelly callagan wrote ----

That's great i have the car at my place in London,
I'm in Seattle,Washington,US, now nobody is living in my parents house in Canada ,
This is the second time I tried to sell the car, I had a deal with somebody before who said he will buy it if I come back... So I got a plane ticket, and guess what!? When I arrived there, he didn't show up and after 2 days he gave me a call and said that he is sorry but he can't buy it anymore, because he has no money.
It was unfortunate that my past bitter experience of inviting people to come and view my car without any form of confirmation of their financial ability and not keeping up to time as at when scheduled, has brought about great loss to me.
So don't get me wrong and don't take it personally, but now I don't want to buy another plane ticket to come and fall for it once more... maybe you won't show up. I'm sick of tire-kickers, people who are just looking around and not serious about buying, so please don't waste my time... No offence!
I want to come and meet you let me know when ?
also do you have whatsapp application installed on your mobile ? because it's so much easier than exchanging emails .
Please forward your mobile number .

sent from my iphone.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:
Absolutely I do it will make a perfect christmas gift formula wife..
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From: "kelly callagan" <kellycallagan@gmail.com>
To: "Kevin Grosz" <kevs87ta@hotmail.com>
Sent: November 2, 2014 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london

I'm at work now , i have Ownership certificate, Safety, Emission and Car Proof report everything you need to register it under your name ,
Do you have the funds available ?

sent from my iphone.

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Kevin Grosz <kevs87ta@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello Kelly I am very interested, I have been looking for a firehawk for my wife.These cars are my passion. Could I get your number so I can talk to you. Thanks
Kevin
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From: "kelly callagan" <kellycallagan@gmail.com>
To: "kevs87ta@hotmail.com" <kevs87ta@hotmail.com>
Sent: November 2, 2014 1:13 PM
Subject: 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio - 3800 - london

Hello.

I appreciate your interest.
My name is Kelly and I have a beautiful and immaculate 2002 Pontiac Firebird cabrio for $3,800 with nothing to spend, I think is a good deal.
I'm the owner and love this car and it means alot to me but unfortunately i have to sell it .
This vehicle has been professionally maintained never out in the rain or snow ,never been involved in any accidents it has original paint and it comes safetied and certified.
it looks exactly like in the pictures A+ condition ,
I'm looking to meet in person ,because i really need to take care of this by the end of the next week. I am looking forward hearing from you, so i can know you better and make sure you want this car for personal use and not to make profit out of it .
You have more photos here: http://imgur.com/mDIma9Y,iicnvnK,ZMBnT9 ... jq,e4QGI3u
Respectfully Kelly

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