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Z28 MeTaL HeAd wrote:

You guys are all cry babies

j/k

In my VAST 10-bolt experience, Richmond's are the loudest AND weakest.

I've had my best luck with Yukon gears followed by OEM. I had a OEM GM set of 4.10's originally from a 4-banger s10 in my last 4th gen 10-bolt and it took MANY upon MANY clutch drops completely side-stepped, including on M/T ET Street bias-ply's and I cant even begin to count how many more burnouts/drifts/drag strip runs.

The OE GM were the quietest, and when my last 10-bolt blew up the gear set wasnt the cause, it was that shit co-co clock/auburn posi design. The center section broke in half, the spider gears turned into mush and I even snapped that billet center pin in half. If i didnt have rear disk brakes my axles would've shot right out of the differential. The gear-set only had little chips on the edges of some of the teeth from exploding debris from the carrier, otherwise it was still in great shape, and that was 4.10's!

Author:	1997ss [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:19 am ]
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Guys in the spring I was hoping to bring my car to a shop that could help reduce the gear whine from the Richmond 4:10 gears ( its louder than my exhaust ) ..can anyone recommend a shop ? I'm in the Georgetown area . Thanks ..

Author:	Vetty [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:46 am ]
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Unfortunatly gear whine with Richmond 4.10s is generally always shitty no matter how you set them up. Some tweaks might make it not as bad but it will still be there. Mine are getting really bad... cant wait for my new rearend come spring to hopefully get rid of the whine!

Author:	FOWL PLAY [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:35 pm ]
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2X that from Vetty...Been in several cars with Richmonds and thats the way they seem to be

Author:	cam [ Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:03 pm ]
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Richmond Gears suck imo. Run OEM or Motive. Surprisingly Quality Gear ( off brand ) can be quite good too.

Author:	Daz [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:46 am ]
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cam wrote: Richmond Gears suck imo. Run OEM or Motive. Surprisingly Quality Gear ( off brand ) can be quite good too. very helpful..lol Before you give up on it,do the basics. Check/Change the fluid and if that doesnt work get the backlash/setup checked. Look for a good tranny shop

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Author:	Vetty [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:47 am ]
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Like i said i could be corrected to a point but dont expect alot from those gearsets as im not the only one with bad gear whine.

Author:	flame [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:33 pm ]
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If you have put very many miles on them then trying to adjust them now is a waste of money. Your only option IMO is to start with a fresh set of gears and have them installed by someone/place you know has a good rep for setting them up properly.

Author:	cam [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:29 pm ]
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Meh used gears can work great too. Believe me if it can be done with a diff Ive tried it many times. You want to try something brave? Drain the gear lubes out of it, put it 10w30 and POUND the shit out of it for 20 kms or so then switch back to gear lube., FWIW I also find syn lubes make more noise than old school dyno lubes do. You got nothing to lose by trying. Ive had silent diffs turn a bit noisy after track abuse and noisy diffs turn silent after track abuse. Its just harmonics it wont hurt anything other than your sound system pleasures

Author:	Daz [ Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:07 pm ]
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it could also be geometry of the gears..I guess you could always shave the tips to make it quiet..lol

Author:	1997ss [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:51 pm ]
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Thanks for the reply's , Ive had 3 other camaro's all with 4:10's and these are the loudest ..I guess it doesn't help that I think I have a bearing going out in the rear end also ..

Author:	The Project [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:24 pm ]
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I run US Gear/Strange gears and they seem pretty quiet. Might want to consider another gear brand beside the Richmond.

Author:	silverbullet85 [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:33 pm ]
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i can't hear my gears over my open exhaust..... problem solved

Author:	Z28 MeTaL HeAd [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:45 pm ]
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You guys are all cry babies j/k In my VAST 10-bolt experience, Richmond's are the loudest AND weakest. I've had my best luck with Yukon gears followed by OEM. I had a OEM GM set of 4.10's originally from a 4-banger s10 in my last 4th gen 10-bolt and it took MANY upon MANY clutch drops completely side-stepped, including on M/T ET Street bias-ply's and I cant even begin to count how many more burnouts/drifts/drag strip runs. The OE GM were the quietest, and when my last 10-bolt blew up the gear set wasnt the cause, it was that shit co-co clock/auburn posi design. The center section broke in half, the spider gears turned into mush and I even snapped that billet center pin in half. If i didnt have rear disk brakes my axles would've shot right out of the differential. The gear-set only had little chips on the edges of some of the teeth from exploding debris from the carrier, otherwise it was still in great shape, and that was 4.10's!

Author:	Hawk [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:53 pm ]
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Aint ran a Richmond set yet that were quiet I got Summit 4:10's in my 92 right now, darn things are the quietest gears I have ever ran fluke I am sure but still, not a peep out of em I like the GM ones when I can find em, had Motive 4:10's in our 96, werent bad but still whined

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Author:	cam [ Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:11 pm ]
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Z28 MeTaL HeAd wrote: You guys are all cry babies j/k In my VAST 10-bolt experience, Richmond's are the loudest AND weakest. I've had my best luck with Yukon gears followed by OEM. I had a OEM GM set of 4.10's originally from a 4-banger s10 in my last 4th gen 10-bolt and it took MANY upon MANY clutch drops completely side-stepped, including on M/T ET Street bias-ply's and I cant even begin to count how many more burnouts/drifts/drag strip runs. The OE GM were the quietest, and when my last 10-bolt blew up the gear set wasnt the cause, it was that shit co-co clock/auburn posi design. The center section broke in half, the spider gears turned into mush and I even snapped that billet center pin in half. If i didnt have rear disk brakes my axles would've shot right out of the differential. The gear-set only had little chips on the edges of some of the teeth from exploding debris from the carrier, otherwise it was still in great shape, and that was 4.10's! The mighty cuckoo clock strikes again!