my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
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Vetty
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
Yeah ive never seen an lt1 tb like that before. Who makes it? If it doesnt work or fit you can always sell it and pick up a Professional Products 52mm and are pretty cheap compared to a bbk or edelbrock. Can usually find a good used one on camaroz28.com forum, thats where ive bought all my used engine parts and a saved a tone!
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Mon May 02, 2011 10:22 am |
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sh8kin
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
BBK
_________________1995 Impala SS forged 355 LT1, cc503, ported aluminum heads, 1.6RR-7/16, 3200stall, hotchkis suspension- springs/ ext arms/ front end kit, airlift springs, and a big ass heavy stereo all RF 2005 Vibe-wife beater 2006 TBSS (white rocket beater)
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Mon May 02, 2011 10:35 am |
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efh
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
sh8kin wrote: *update i stripped the rest of the block down to bear nothing other then the pistions/crank in the block, took the camshaft out realised the cam bearings are f**ked all of them, just wear and tear also the cam journals were also messed up and warn. i made a call to my local machine sho to get a price and he asked if i had ever had oiling problems with the motor, i never realised that the bearings in the cam area had oiling issues for pressure in the top end, i just thought it was normal for oil pressure to be low. anyway its another setback aleast another week of waiting for the block to come back from the machine shop, and another expense but i was expecting it to not be perfect. 383 time? lol i wish i had the cash to invest into one but right now i dont. i did get to powerwash the engine bay and wow what a difference! more pics next weekend hopefully 52mm TB came in Are you putting new rod bearings and main bearings in it now that the cambearings are toast ?
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Mon May 02, 2011 12:18 pm |
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sh8kin
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
i spoke to the machine shop and id like to replace the cam,rod and mains in her and also the piston rings while its all out. may even decide to replace the oil pump while im in there. i just hope i dont break the bank, im off to the azores at the end of the month with the wife.
_________________1995 Impala SS forged 355 LT1, cc503, ported aluminum heads, 1.6RR-7/16, 3200stall, hotchkis suspension- springs/ ext arms/ front end kit, airlift springs, and a big ass heavy stereo all RF 2005 Vibe-wife beater 2006 TBSS (white rocket beater)
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Mon May 02, 2011 12:36 pm |
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efh
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
You'd be nuts not the cam rotates at half the speed of the crank and has a whole lot less load on it than the crank so it the cam bearings are bad the rod and main brgs will be worse . The other bad thing is that it has powdered metal rods in it and I've yet to take an enging apart with those pieces of junk in it where there wasn't atleast one or two bearings loose in the rods . Definately put a new oil pump in it they are pretty cheap compared to doing it all over again .
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Mon May 02, 2011 12:51 pm |
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Vetty
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
Never seen a BBK look like that b4 man not sure what to say about it. As EFH said you would be wise to change all bearing and while your in there a pump isnt a bad idea. I would also put a set of ARP rod bolts on for some reassurance they are cheap. Now you can already see why building an engine is bad. All the little things you can and should do while you have it apart and it adds up quick...
_________________ 1969 Firebird Sprint OHC 6 - 250ci/M5 1995 Trans Am - Blue Green Chameleon - 350ci/A4 1994 Fire-Am - Polo Green - 355ci/M6 380rwhp: SOLD
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Mon May 02, 2011 1:19 pm |
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sh8kin
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
ok got another call back,
for new oil pump with a metal shaft instead of a cheap plastic one, new ring set, bore and hone, new bearings-all of them and a new rear main seal, machining the crank, plus a good block cleaning (keeping the old pistons and connecting rods) $1050. does this sound reasonable? i think it does
_________________1995 Impala SS forged 355 LT1, cc503, ported aluminum heads, 1.6RR-7/16, 3200stall, hotchkis suspension- springs/ ext arms/ front end kit, airlift springs, and a big ass heavy stereo all RF 2005 Vibe-wife beater 2006 TBSS (white rocket beater)
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Thu May 05, 2011 10:29 am |
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flame
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
Sounds cheap to me
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Thu May 05, 2011 12:56 pm |
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mikesz1984
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
you list bore and hone, but you are keeping the old pistons? that part doesnt make sense to me. if you are to bore the block(cylinders) you would need to get new pistons wouldnt you.
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Thu May 05, 2011 5:33 pm |
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userchemical
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
sh8kin wrote: ok got another call back,
for new oil pump with a metal shaft instead of a cheap plastic one, new ring set, bore and hone, new bearings-all of them and a new rear main seal, machining the crank, plus a good block cleaning (keeping the old pistons and connecting rods) $1050. does this sound reasonable? i think it does For that price you can pick up forged 350,355,383 lt1 blocks, Sometimes with heads. Wont have your old pistons and rods either. IMO thats way better way to spend 1050.
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Thu May 05, 2011 8:12 pm |
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userchemical
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
mikesz1984 wrote: you list bore and hone, but you are keeping the old pistons? that part doesnt make sense to me. if you are to bore the block(cylinders) you would need to get new pistons wouldnt you. You mean piston rings?
_________________ 1999 Cavalier Z24 Clone 2.2 5MT
1995 Camaro Z28 | SOLD
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Thu May 05, 2011 8:13 pm |
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efh
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
userchemical wrote: mikesz1984 wrote: you list bore and hone, but you are keeping the old pistons? that part doesnt make sense to me. if you are to bore the block(cylinders) you would need to get new pistons wouldnt you. You mean piston rings? No Mikes right if you "BORE AND HONE" a block you need new oversized pistons . You can beglaze clyinders and put new rings on old pistons [since you are not removing material ] but if you bore then the old pistons won't be large enough
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Mr Bastard
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
userchemical wrote: sh8kin wrote: ok got another call back,
for new oil pump with a metal shaft instead of a cheap plastic one, new ring set, bore and hone, new bearings-all of them and a new rear main seal, machining the crank, plus a good block cleaning (keeping the old pistons and connecting rods) $1050. does this sound reasonable? i think it does For that price you can pick up forged 350,355,383 lt1 blocks, Sometimes with heads. Wont have your old pistons and rods either. IMO thats way better way to spend 1050. 1000 bucks for one thats fully forged and not f**ked,.....good luck.
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Thu May 05, 2011 10:48 pm |
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userchemical
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
Mr Bastard wrote: userchemical wrote: sh8kin wrote: ok got another call back,
for new oil pump with a metal shaft instead of a cheap plastic one, new ring set, bore and hone, new bearings-all of them and a new rear main seal, machining the crank, plus a good block cleaning (keeping the old pistons and connecting rods) $1050. does this sound reasonable? i think it does For that price you can pick up forged 350,355,383 lt1 blocks, Sometimes with heads. Wont have your old pistons and rods either. IMO thats way better way to spend 1050. 1000 bucks for one thats fully forged and not f**ked,.....good luck. Guess you don't know much about lt1s
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Fri May 06, 2011 1:17 am |
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sh8kin
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Re: my LT1 build for the SS *updated pics*
I called them back to clairfy what was being done and why they are still able to use the old pistons. from what the machinist said, the cylinder walls were still good but some where not completely straight so he has to hone the cylinders, not actually bore to a "bigger". the rings he is replacing is because of the wear on the old originals that over time have become weak. the pistons and connecting rods where still good enough to use since i am on a little bit of a budget, i did search on engines before i made my decidsion on getting a short block for a cheaper price but i came up empty without going way over what i wanted to spend. i don't know where you guys can find fully forged LT1 for that price, thats like find a pot of gold all i have come up with is 2500- 5500 fully built bottom ends.
_________________1995 Impala SS forged 355 LT1, cc503, ported aluminum heads, 1.6RR-7/16, 3200stall, hotchkis suspension- springs/ ext arms/ front end kit, airlift springs, and a big ass heavy stereo all RF 2005 Vibe-wife beater 2006 TBSS (white rocket beater)
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